Title: Overstayed Schengen Visa by 12days in 30 day Visa need info on re entry ASAP pls Post by: vikasnx89 on February 24, 2015, 01:19:15 pm Recently I had been to Germany on behalf of my company to attend business meetings and discussion. I was in Germany from 11th Jan 2015 till 21st Feb 2015. At the time of exit on 21st Feb 2015, I was stopped by the immigration officer stating that I had overstayed in the country. I had been granted a Schengen Visa which had a validity from 11th Jan2015 till 24th Feb2015 with duration of stay allowed for 30 days
The office at the port of Exit in the airport highlighted to me that I had over stayed by 12 days and hence it is a Criminal offence to overstay. I did the mistake in reading the Schengen visa at my end as I thought that the expiry date of the visa to be the last day of visa and over looked stay period allowed in visa . Hence planned the return tickets accordingly. The immigration officer advised to sign a couple of documents, I would request all of you to advise me or share similar experiences. The officer was very polite and I showed him the booking tickets for entry and exit and he seemed to trust my reason. Please tell me if: 1.I have to pay a penalty ? 2.I will face a ban of 1 year. 3.will I be affected to get schengen visa again ? 4.Can I apply and get work permit ? Regards, Vikas Title: Re: Overstayed Schengen Visa by 12days in 30 day Visa need info on re entry ASAP pls Post by: porsche on February 27, 2015, 08:52:34 am Your arrival: 11th Feb 2015
Your departure: 21st Feb 2015 Duration of stay: 11 days Visa validity start: 11th Jan2015 This is the earliest day on which you can enter Germany. Did you satisfy this condition? Yes, with arrival on 11th Feb 2015, you did. Visa validity end: 24th Feb2015 This is the latest day on which you must leave Germany. Did you satisfy this condition? Yes, with departure 21st Feb 2015, you did. Allowed duration of stay: 30 days Did you satisfy this condition? You stayed 11 days, so, yes, you did. Either I am missing something, or the decision of the immigration officer was something else, or the dates are not correct, or they just made mistake. Let me know, if the dates are really correct. Did you make a copy of the documents that you have signed? (take a picture with a smartphone) Title: Re: Overstayed Schengen Visa by 12days in 30 day Visa need info on re entry ASAP pls Post by: vikasnx89 on February 27, 2015, 08:54:16 am Your arrival: 11th Feb 2015 Your departure: 21st Feb 2015 Duration of stay: 11 days Visa validity start: 11th Jan2015 This is the earliest day on which you can enter Germany. Did you satisfy this condition? Yes, with arrival on 11th Feb 2015, you did. Visa validity end: 24th Feb2015 This is the latest day on which you must leave Germany. Did you satisfy this condition? Yes, with departure 21st Feb 2015, you did. Allowed duration of stay: 30 days Did you satisfy this condition? You stayed 11 days, so, yes, you did. Either I am missing something, or the decision of the immigration officer was something else, or the dates are not correct, or they just made mistake. Let me know, if the dates are really correct. Did you make a copy of the documents that you have signed? (take a picture with a smartphone) I am sorry entry date is 11jan2015 its when I entered Germany Title: Re: Overstayed Schengen Visa by 12days in 30 day Visa need info on re entry ASAP pls Post by: porsche on February 27, 2015, 10:48:39 am Then you did overstay. If you were not asked to pay penalty right there, you are not likely to receive anything later, they probably gave you just a warning. The same for ban, you would already know (from those papers that you have signed) if you were banned from entry. From your post, it sounds like your reasoning at the border was sound and they were ok with it. If that is the case, I would not expect a ban. In case you have signed papers, you will most likely have a record in the system, which might, or might not be considered upon issuing new visa or work permit (depends on the issuing officer at the embassy).
Title: Re: Overstayed Schengen Visa by 12days in 30 day Visa need info on re entry ASAP pls Post by: vikasnx89 on February 27, 2015, 10:54:25 am Then you did overstay. If you were not asked to pay penalty right there, you are not likely to receive anything later, they probably gave you just a warning. The same for ban, you would already know (from those papers that you have signed) if you were banned from entry. From your post, it sounds like your reasoning at the border was sound and they were ok with it. If that is the case, I would not expect a ban. In case you have signed papers, you will most likely have a record in the system, which might, or might not be considered upon issuing new visa or work permit (depends on the issuing officer at the embassy). Thank you Porsche, I called up the Desk Officer who gave his office number of Stuttgart, he said its not a serious offence so they might not even try to collect the fine but he does not have a clear picture of the later proceedings. But he said a person will send a letter to my residential address which is noted down and will be informed after 2 months regarding the fine or I dont know what ! At present I may not get a visa if I get I will be pulled over again at the entry point in he airport I guess, Do you have any idea about re entry after overstay ? ??? Title: Re: Overstayed Schengen Visa by 12days in 30 day Visa need info on re entry ASAP pls Post by: porsche on March 03, 2015, 08:47:59 am Thanks for sharing your experience.
At present I may not get a visa Yes, depends on the officer reviewing your application. if I get I will be pulled over again at the entry point in he airport I guess, Less likely. Only some 30% of passports in the Schengen area are being checked against the system at the border, the remaining 70% are just opened and cloded by the officer without running a check in the system (and for example verifying validity of the passport). Previous overstay is not a reason for interrogation upon entering the Schengen zone. Title: Re: Overstayed Schengen Visa by 12days in 30 day Visa need info on re entry ASAP pls Post by: vikasnx89 on March 03, 2015, 09:17:58 am Thanks for all the information Porsche :) Have a nice day.
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