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jhandwerker
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« on: March 04, 2015, 06:00:57 am »

Hi.....

  I am a US citizen and I'll be in Europe again this spring visiting family and friends.   I know I am allowed 90 days within any 180 day period but I have a unique question below.

I arrived on Dec. 10, 2014 and departed on Jan. 6, 2015.   All days in Schengen countries.   (28 days)

My counter started on Dec. 10th.


I will be in the Schengen countries from March 10th to April 13th, 2015  (35 days)

Then I need to return again around May 16th and would like to stay until about June 20th, 2015  (about 35 days)


If I count 180 days from Dec. 10th that takes me to June 7th, 2015.    If I am in the Schengen area on day 180 (June 7th) I will be at about the "86th" day on the counter.   

If I continue to stay after June 7th do the days back in December of 2014 fall off the counter one by one....so that I would not exceed the 90 day limit?

For example by June 15th would I still be at day "86" since the days from December 10th to 16th are now more than 180 days in the past and not counted against me?

I know this sounds confusing but I just don't want to overstay.

Any feedback is appreciated.

Thanks, Jacob
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Imran Shahzad
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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2015, 05:38:42 pm »

Hi.....

  I am a US citizen and I'll be in Europe again this spring visiting family and friends.   I know I am allowed 90 days within any 180 day period but I have a unique question below.

I arrived on Dec. 10, 2014 and departed on Jan. 6, 2015.   All days in Schengen countries.   (28 days)

My counter started on Dec. 10th.


I will be in the Schengen countries from March 10th to April 13th, 2015  (35 days)

Then I need to return again around May 16th and would like to stay until about June 20th, 2015  (about 35 days)


If I count 180 days from Dec. 10th that takes me to June 7th, 2015.    If I am in the Schengen area on day 180 (June 7th) I will be at about the "86th" day on the counter.   

If I continue to stay after June 7th do the days back in December of 2014 fall off the counter one by one....so that I would not exceed the 90 day limit?

For example by June 15th would I still be at day "86" since the days from December 10th to 16th are now more than 180 days in the past and not counted against me?

I know this sounds confusing but I just don't want to overstay.

Any feedback is appreciated.

Thanks, Jacob

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yaris
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« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2015, 08:46:23 am »

jhandwerker, here is the calculation for your arrival and departure dates:

Dec. 10, 2014 - Jan. 6, 2015: 28 days IN
Jan. 07, 2015 - March 09, 2015: 62 days OUT
March 10, 2015 - April 13, 2015: 35 days IN
April 14, 2015 - May 15, 2015: 32 days OUT
May 16, 2015 - June 20, 2015: 36 days IN


May 16, 2015 less 180 days = Nov 17, 2014
This is the date on which the 180 days period starts as of May 16, 2015 when you enter the Schengen area for the third time.
Total of days IN the Schengen area between these dates: 28 + 35 = 63 days (you are ok)

June 20, 2015 less 180 days = Dec 22, 2014
This is the date on which the 180 days period starts as of June 20, 2015 when you leave the Schengen area for the third time.
Total of days IN the Schengen area between these dates: 16 + 35 + 36 = 87 days (you are ok)

June 07, 2015 less 180 days = Dec 09, 2014
Total of days IN the Schengen area between these dates: 28 + 35 + 23 = 86 days (you are ok)

June 15, 2015 less 180 days = Dec 17, 2014
Total of days IN the Schengen area between these dates: 21 + 35 + 31 = 87 days (you are ok)

You can find a narrative explanation of the 90/180 rule here:

Schengen visa 90/180 rule calculation

Cheers.
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