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Will the passport scan at the airport show my previous entry denial to the UK?

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f1rew0man
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« on: October 15, 2015, 02:42:01 am »

Hello,
Do any of you know what kind of info shows up when a passport is scanned at the airport upon entering the Netherlands (Amsterdam)?
I have a Canadian passport, and a few months ago, I was denied entry into the UK because I didn't have a return ticket and they didn't like my reasons for visiting. So if I attempt to enter the UK again, this incident will show up and I will be taken aside for questioning. However, I've heard that the UK doesn't share this info with the Netherlands - so they will not have this info. Is this true?
 I am planning on traveling to Amsterdam next month. Is it a good idea to renew my Canadian passport to get rid of the "denial" stamp so that the Netherlands border control doesn't get suspicious?

Thanks for any info you might have!
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danisara
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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2015, 01:54:12 pm »

In general, when you go through the border, the passport control can take saveral shapes. The officer may just let you go through without even looking inside your passport (very seldom). Or, the officer may just look at your photo to confirm that the passport belongs to you (most common scenario). Or, the officer may look at your photo and than scan through visa pages of your passport to quickly review your history (quite often). Or, the officer may look inside your passport, and in addition to that also check some of your background (validity of your passport, your possible presence on the "wanted" list, your travel history, ets.) in the SIS (Schengen Information System (http://www.euro-dollar-currency.com/schengen_information_system.htm)). This system has a number of screens, menus, and options of which some of them make your travel history available. So, whether your travel history will or will not affect your future travel is unknown, i.e. depends on the particular officer at the border.

Now in regards to the UK, it is true that UK is not part of the Schengen system which means your data from the UK is not included in the Schengen Information System.

Getting a new passport is a wise decision.

Let us know your experience. Thanks.
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f1rew0man
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« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2015, 11:18:33 pm »


Now in regards to the UK, it is true that UK is not part of the Schengen system which means your data from the UK is not included in the Schengen Information System.

Getting a new passport is a wise decision.

Let us know your experience. Thanks.

     Danisara,
     Thank you for such a detailed reply!

     Regarding the UK not sharing information with SIS: I have recently read the opposite in a BBC article called "Schengen: Controversial EU free movement deal explained" (cannot post links just yet). It says "The UK and Ireland began taking part in some aspects of the Schengen agreement, such as the Schengen Information System (SIS), from 2000 and 2002 respectively. The SIS enables police forces across Europe to share data on law enforcement. It includes data on stolen cars, court proceedings and missing persons."

     Regarding the different levels of passport control: in my experience, almost all of the officers scan my passport, but none (but one so far) do any additional searches (judging by the time they spend looking at the screen). I wonder if specifically just scanning the passport will put my entry denial info on the screen (assuming the officer will not use menu options). I know it's a very specific question and probably not a lot of people know the answer.
     I just got my new shiny 10-year Canadian passport in the mail, free of any "black marks", and booked my tickets and accommodation to the Netherlands. I have no choice but to just try...  Embarrassed . I'll post any results  Smiley
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danisara
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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2015, 04:59:57 pm »

As far as I know, travel history is not shown on the screen by default. The result of your passport scan shows validity of your passport, your presence on the wanted list, and such priority information.
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f1rew0man
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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2015, 08:48:47 pm »

Thanks for your replies! I'll be crossing the border in a week with a new passport, so we'll see what happens!
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